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Mountain Goat



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alan, I'm really sorry to disappoint you, but all our XpPro installations (7, or counting the woodle's pet food calorie counter dedicated laptop, 8 in total) are running SP2 and none are pirate. You may find pirate XpPro an oxymoron.

Out of the 70 millions users, I gather, from a quick scan via Google and the tech forums, that I am not alone, apologies - I meant to say 69,999,999 users - I wouldn't want to include you.

If you're feeling bored, perhaps drop your post into one of the geek forums? You may find a flak jacket useful.

MG

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We still run Windows 2000 Pro on two of our workstations (because our expert says the platform is more stable than XP or Vista) and I was worried that AVG8 might not be compatible. However, it downloaded successfully on both and automatically kicked out 7.5. But I wonder how much longer we will be able to use friendly and reliable old 2000.

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Mountain Goat



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same feelings about friendly and reliable Windows NT - ran a network for years without the slightest blip - solid as a rock. Does it still exist?

MG
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Alan Knighting



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mountain Goat wrote:
Alan, I'm really sorry to disappoint you, but all our XpPro installations (7, or counting the woodle's pet food calorie counter dedicated laptop, 8 in total) are running SP2 and none are pirate. You may find pirate XpPro an oxymoron.

Out of the 70 millions users, I gather, from a quick scan via Google and the tech forums, that I am not alone, apologies - I meant to say 69,999,999 users - I wouldn't want to include you.

If you're feeling bored, perhaps drop your post into one of the geek forums? You may find a flak jacket useful.

MG

Margaret,

I was stating a fact, not making an accusation. Rather than being disappointed I am delighted to hear the good news about your copies of XP.

I know some people have reported problems and I admit I’ve only updated AVG on 3 PC’s, 1 XP Pro and 2 XP Home. Once I had upgraded to SP2 AVG v8 installed on all 3 with no problems at all. I think I’ll leave the geek forums to the geeks.

Mountain Goat wrote:
Same feelings about friendly and reliable Windows NT - ran a network for years without the slightest blip - solid as a rock. Does it still exist?

MG

I too used to run a network. It was actually a mixed network of networks; DEC PDP11’s running RSTS, DEC Vax’s running VMS, Intel boxes running Unix & Xenix and PC’s running Novel Netware. It could be a nightmare to maintain but by far the most reliable were those running Unix and Xenix.

I think NT still lives, to an extent. Aren’t Windows 2000, XP and Vista based on the technology of the NT engine?

Alan
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Alan Knighting



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apologies to Margaret,

I think my last message should have been addressed to Richard or Jenny although I’m not sure which one is MG.

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Mountain Goat



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having upgraded and done a full drive check with AVG 8.0 I'm the proud owner of 1,800 cookies on one of our laptops, 1,200 on another.

Before I find a way of zapping them, surely there are good cookies and evil cookies and should I best leave alone?

MG
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Alan Knighting



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mountain Goat wrote:
Having upgraded and done a full drive check with AVG 8.0 I'm the proud owner of 1,800 cookies on one of our laptops, 1,200 on another.

Before I find a way of zapping them, surely there are good cookies and evil cookies and should I best leave alone?

MG

You have two alternatives. You could zap them all and approve them again as and when they come up or you could assume you already have a clean system in which case you should leave them alone. It's entirely up to you.

Alan
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vrooje



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I approve/reject all new cookies/cookie-setting sites as they come up, and I currently have cookies from 65 different sites (most of which set multiple cookies). I force most of them to be session cookies and I clear them regularly anyway, and it does me no harm.

The only cookie I don't like to clear is the one set by Lay My Hat that allows me to stay logged in to the forum at all times. Smile

MG, I'd say you're probably fine as-is. If you want to do as I do, it will take some getting used to (the constant requests for cookies), but it is very enlightening.
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Alan Knighting



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brooke,

As is the case with many things, proper cookie control can be an eye-opener but don’t many people need their eyes opened about many things?

Alan
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Mountain Goat



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many thanks for the advice.

Brooke, re:

The only cookie I don't like to clear is the one set by Lay My Hat that allows me to stay logged in to the forum at all times.

I find the login drops after 30mins or so - is that a function of LMH's inner workings, Paolo's preference or my browser (Firefox)?

MG
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vrooje



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you check the box to keep you logged in at all times, the forum shouldn't log you off. If it does that, it's probably a preference in your browser that forces LMH's cookies to be session cookies, or something else in your settings that forces sessions to expire after 30 minutes (if it's that regular).
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Marks



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

www.ccleaner.com/ is a good way to manage cookies. You chose to include or exclude and when you run the cleaner those you don't want are removed.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got nearly 1600 cookies on my main workstation. If I zapped all of those, is the worst that could happen as a result that it'll take me longer to access those sites again? Do any of these cookies have a more sinister motive? And would my machine be noticeably better for their removal?

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Mountain Goat



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Brooke and others.

So, following up on Jimbo's question, which to delete and which to keep and what are the downsides of deleting?

MG
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jimbo wrote:
I've got nearly 1600 cookies on my main workstation. If I zapped all of those, is the worst that could happen as a result that it'll take me longer to access those sites again? Do any of these cookies have a more sinister motive? And would my machine be noticeably better for their removal?

Jim

Jim,

If you delete them all each one will simply reappear when you next visit the sites which use them. Most cookies are simply tracking devices but one or two are more sinister; within your browser you can block or allow cookies for specific websites. They just use up a little space on your HD of which you probably have more than enough.

Alan
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