Submitting new URL to Google

Everything to do with using your own website to advertise your rental property. Design, usability, hosting, getting listed on the search engines, optimising your site, pay-per-click, etc, etc.
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I monitor the statistics that my web hosting company make available and the googlebot is the most frequent visitor.
That doesn't make it any easier to be found in google!
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Godaddy claim that Google penalises domain names that are only registered for a year. They like to see a few years pre-paid registration in the WHOIS database, to demonstrate that the site is going to be around for a while, the longer the better. Ten years is the maximum length of registration available. Granted that a Registrar has a vested interest in selling domain name renewals for multiple years, but Godaddy is one of the leading Registrars, and one hopes would not be making such claims unless true.

Two other things are happening with the DNS (Domain Name System). First, the internet is fragmenting. Yes, there is more than one internet. (Don't expect any Chinese visitors to your site any time soon.) Also, the EU is threatening to build it's own root system, and probably will eventually. The second thing happening is the private US corporation that controls the existing legacy root system (ICANN), which is in cohoots with the US government, has, in it's wisdom, all but decided to extend another US corporation's monoploy control over dot.COM in perpetuity (VeriSign). The contract includes a provision for a 7% annual increase in the Registry charge for each dot.com registration or renewal, (currently $6 per annum), again in perpetuity.

To conclude: Renewing your domain name now for a few years at cheap rates might be the prudent way to go, especially if it increases Google ranking, although the long term strategy ought to consider the likely need for buying into and maintaining mirror site(s) in other root system(s), if and when alternative(s) become a significant factor in the marketplace.
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Joanna,

As a matter of interest, will these root systems be entirely divorced from each other? Will it be impossible to enter one root system from another? If there are say four root systems will it be necessary to do four separate searches, one on each?

What lies behind these proposals? Is it perhaps governments wanting to extend their control over the Internet?

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Hi All

I am a bit confused with this thread. Are you all trying to get found on searches like holidays to france or villa in spain if so then yes the sandbox theme will extend to you but you can submit your site to google get indexed and appear on page 1 within 1 week.

It all depends on the searches you go after. I have worked in SEo now for over 4 years and have made a point of studying google especially. There is thousands of people out there searching for thousands of things so why is everyone fighting for the no1 position on searches that the large companies have tied up would it not be a point to try and focus on the searches that everyone is not after.

Hope this helps

Pete
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Alan Knighting wrote:What lies behind these proposals? Alan
Alan,
It's not the situation that today there is one internet and tomorrow there may be two. The root we use today is only 13 servers and it's a fairly trivial task to build another one. There are several others in existence today and many more that have failed to survive. A root can be inclusive of all others, meaning it can interconnect with the ICANN legacy root, so you send a query through your computer and it can resolve to either root, although I believe only one of them currently does that (and it's not the Chinese or ICANN).

ICANN has consistently refused to cooperate with requests to include other roots, and in fact has gone out of its way to create technical conflicts to ensure they couldn't. It's all about who controls the flow of information, and censorship is happening on many levels, which is why you cannot do a Google search for the word 'democracy' in China. You may not be able to do a search for "villa in France" in certain parts of the world either, I wouldn't know (although obviously that's an extreme example)

When a French court ordered Ebay to remove Nazi memorabilia from the French eBay site, it did so immediately, but when it also ordered eBay to deny access from users located in France to Nazi memorabilia that was available on the US site, it could not be done without banning the whole of France from accessing the whole of the US eBay site. Obviously eBay wouldn't want to do that, so instead they were forced to ban the sale of Nazi memorabilia universally, even though it is legal in the US. The point is that censorship is happening on a lot of different levels behind the scenes.

It's these kinds of cultural and national differences that lie behind what appears to be an evolutionary fragmentation of what we currently have. I think in 10 years time we will see a different system as countries assert their right to control the flow of information to their own citizens and uphold their own laws. There is no special internet law, countries apply their own laws and that's where many of the problems lie.

Does any of this matter to us? Not much, as long as you are aware that there is no such thing as achieving the top of page 1 in Google search results universally throughout the world. You may reach some of the people all of the time, but you will never reach all of the people all of the time, no matter what your key words.

Until an alternate root of real significance is launched, computer manufacturers will not change the browser software they ship with their computers, and nobody will know there are other roots.

Here is one link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_DNS_root which explains the basics.

You can download additional software to access the other roots. One reason for doing it is if there is a terror attack on the ICANN root, you'll still be able to communicate using the internet.
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Joanna,

Thank you for that explanation, it is most interesting. It appears that the subject is about root name servers rather than the individual servers hosting websites and the information contained within them.

I find myself very much "between a rock and a hard place". On the one hand I am totally opposed to censorship of any sort as it is the suppression of free thought and expression. On the other hand I find myself quite disgusted with some things on the Internet, things like pornography and paedophilia. How the first can be preserved while at the same time eradicating the latter is totally beyond me. If in doubt I would always opt for the permissive rather than the restrictive approach.
Does any of this matter to us?
In the confines of selling weeks in our self-catering holiday homes, probably not at all. In the context of our hard fought for freedoms of thought, expression and speech, it is fundamental.

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