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e-richard



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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2019 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OTA - Online Travel Agents. What used to be "Listing Sites", but now they get a bigger share of rentals, so they are OTAs
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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2019 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

e-richard wrote:
OTA - Online Travel Agents. What used to be "Listing Sites", but now they get a bigger share of rentals, so they are OTAs

Thanks Richard.
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honeysuckle34



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PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2019 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But Airbnb spy on the Airbnb Facebook forums.
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Stewart



Joined: 11 Jun 2011
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Location: Fife, Scotland

PostPosted: Wed May 29, 2019 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any commercial outfit who are serious are going to look/spy/shufty at what's going on. I sense a paranoia in some of these responses. I suppose if your business is going predominantly through one or two of the big players then you have too many eggs in one basket. My concern with that situation would not be avoiding insulting them but rather when they make their T's and C's onerous and hike charges.

This appears to be the business model. Grab market share, become dominant and then turn the screws on the hosts. I love ABB right now but I suspect that love affair will last no more than another two years.
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Cymraes



Joined: 07 Jul 2015
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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2019 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did say the better FB groups. The big ones who allow everyone in are dreadful.

Paranoia? Well maybe but there are posts on this forum of members being removed from some of the big OTAs based on what they posted here.

I have no axe to grind. The OTAs have no power at all over me. I've never been on AirBnB, HA (or any of that group) and my TA/HL listing brings me maybe one or two bookings a year so being banned from there wouldn't hurt me at all.
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-Chris-



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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2019 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is TA / HL ? Just trying to catch up on acronym city here. Smile

The ironic thing is, is that when any of us place a listing for our property on those sites, you are in effect helping them even further.
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Cymraes



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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2019 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

-Chris- wrote:
What is TA / HL ? Just trying to catch up on acronym city here. Smile

The ironic thing is, is that when any of us place a listing for our property on those sites, you are in effect helping them even further.


TripAdvisor/Holiday Lettings. HA is HomeAway ( formerly Owners Direct in the UK)


Yes we are - so I don't! I hate the way they treat our properties as theirs, hang on to our money until the last possible moment and ride roughshod over our cancellation policies.

No thank you.
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KathyG



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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2019 3:42 am    Post subject: Re: Cummon You Lot, Get your Fingers Out Reply with quote

Stewart wrote:
This is the best forum for Holiday Letters I have found. As a newbie I found the archive really useful. BUT (400 bookings on) the contributions are declining in quality and quantity IMHO. Pass the Ralgex round, rub it in and re-start contributing

You're right Stewart, this is the best holiday letting forum around, or was. Sadly most people have moved to Facebook which isn't a patch on this, but as someone said is easier to access on mobiles etc. I couldn't have managed without the excellent advice from all the old hands that were here over the last 12 years. Very few of them here now unfortunately. Crying or Very sad
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farley



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Location: Poitou Charentes

PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2019 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Totally agree with you Kathy and Stewart. I’ve used this Forum for over 10years and cannot praise it highly enough. I’ve probably logged in every day during that time as the issues raised really help me run my business wisely and efficiently.
It’s sad we’ve lost so many ‘old hands’.
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rosebud



Joined: 14 Mar 2012
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Location: Steyning, West Sussex

PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree .. Facebook groups far less satisfactory.
Lay My Hat Forum far more helpful.
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Joanna



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Location: Chester, North West England & Sidmouth, East Devon

PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree - this site has been vital for us. Without it I think being an independent holiday let owner would have been quite a lonely job.

I belong to some of the Facebook groups but I find them much more difficult to follow. LMH is well structured and the quality of the information over the years has been invaluable.

If LMH could be made more responsive maybe it would attract more users. But, I suspect that would not be an easy job.
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SPJ



Joined: 28 Dec 2015
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Location: Aquitaine

PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another one here who agrees that this site has been invaluable and that FB pages are just a mess - ok maybe for gossip, hopeless for asking for and receiving useful information.

Those of you missing the "old hands", bear in mind that if you have been on here more than five years, these days that's YOU. Smile
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