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louiseddie



Joined: 18 Aug 2013
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 1:57 pm    Post subject: Is this a scam? Reply with quote

Looks like one to me but what do you think... and if so how do I reply? Thanks!

Hey, I have seen your lovely property on the ownersdirect webpage. I was wondering if it was available for a full week booking, starting March 18th. As this is for next year, our dates are flexible, so if this particular week is not available, we are open to suggestions. You can reach me at ann@ capable48.com , as i can check this address even if i'm in the office. Best Regards.
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newtimber



Joined: 24 Nov 2012
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Location: Brighton

PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have your own website, you could just direct them there so they can see your prices/availability.
Check the domain capable48.com using whois - although it is a newly created domain name, it looks genuine and has a phone number so you could give her a ring.
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Casscat



Joined: 05 Jul 2014
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Location: Andalucía

PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't bother replying - it's a scam in the now traditional format of pretending that somehow the email they used to register with OD is not the one they now wish you to communicate on. It's hogwash. Report it as spam to OD and forget about it.
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Giuliano



Joined: 25 Oct 2016
Posts: 54
Location: Umbria

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello,
got the same request, and the old trick which came out was that they asked for confirmation of the location of my property on a fake googlemap page. It's plain old phishing.
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Tivoli



Joined: 19 Feb 2015
Posts: 140
Location: Glossa, Skopelos, Greece

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Obviously I am a bit dim in this regard. I would never have suspected this as a scam, what exactly does it achieve?
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Giuliano



Joined: 25 Oct 2016
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Location: Umbria

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tivoli wrote:
Obviously I am a bit dim in this regard. I would never have suspected this as a scam, what exactly does it achieve?


he/she gets your googlemail password if you fall for this trick....
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Tivoli



Joined: 19 Feb 2015
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Location: Glossa, Skopelos, Greece

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Giuliano wrote:
he/she gets your googlemail password if you fall for this trick....

How?
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e-richard



Joined: 17 Oct 2004
Posts: 4944
Location: Algarve, Portugal

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tivoli wrote:
Giuliano wrote:
he/she gets your googlemail password if you fall for this trick....

How?

It may not happen immediately in answer to this email, but maybe later down the process, you'll get an email from them with some link in it, that looks quite innocuous and you click it.

Of course, you are also very busy and pressed for time.

So when the next page comes up with your standard email login and it says "Sorry you have been logged out, please login again" and it looks exactly like what you were expecting, so you login again. Yes, you dutifully type in your email address and your password.

Only the page is not your email provider, but the scammer's lookalike page, and what have you just given them ?
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Tivoli



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see. I completely understand that clicking on a link is the most reckless thing you can do but I don't think it is fair to assume that anybody with two email addresses is up to no good.
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e-richard



Joined: 17 Oct 2004
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 1:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Is this a scam? Reply with quote

Its not about 2 email addresses. I've highlighted the suspect phrases below. While each one on its own may be innocuous, when found in combination they strongly indicate care needs to be taken.

louiseddie wrote:
Hey, I have seen your lovely property on the ownersdirect webpage. I was wondering if it was available for a full week booking, starting March 18th. As this is for next year, our dates are flexible, so if this particular week is not available, we are open to suggestions. You can reach me at ann@ capable48.com , as i can check this address even if i'm in the office. Best Regards.

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Casscat



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not even those terms - useful pointers as they are on the Scam-o-meter - but the dead giveaway of asking you to use an email address other than the one they enquired with. If you want contact via a certain email address, enquire with it! However if you want to cover your tracks and either distance yourself from the address you first used or avoid it being determined that the address you registered with is, in fact, non-existent then just say 'this is the best email to get me on because I am often on the move/pick this up more regularly/can view while at work/other utterly preposterous excuse'. I never, ever reply to enquiries couched in those terms and just send them straight to spam. Having two email addresses is not the sign of a scammer/spammer (I have five or more), but normal folks use specific addresses for specific purposes and don't sign up with one and then ask to be contacted on another.
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