Can you review my site?
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Can you review my site?
www.frenchsecrets.co.uk
It's my first attempt, using Frontpage (I am a complete idiot when it comes to HTML), and I have borrowed ideas from other websites you have reveiwed, though I am not quite sure this is the "done thing". I have tried to keep it simple and easy to navigate and have incorporated some ideas given to me by other web developers (even though I don't really understand the benefits - tags for pictures?) but have found Frontpage quite difficult to work with.
Looking forward to hearing from you (with some trepidation)!
Nicola
It's my first attempt, using Frontpage (I am a complete idiot when it comes to HTML), and I have borrowed ideas from other websites you have reveiwed, though I am not quite sure this is the "done thing". I have tried to keep it simple and easy to navigate and have incorporated some ideas given to me by other web developers (even though I don't really understand the benefits - tags for pictures?) but have found Frontpage quite difficult to work with.
Looking forward to hearing from you (with some trepidation)!
Nicola
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Hi Nicola
Didn´t look at the site in depth but these are my first impressions.
1. Too much copy on the home page. I think the fact that it is a 2 bedroom property with a swimming pool that you are advertising should be easier to see.
2. More photos of the property. I could only find a couple and had to search for them! Do you have one of the swimming pool? Apologies if I missed it as I only looked briefly at the site.
3. The rates page looks far too complicated! I think it would be easier on the eye if you listed the rates by seasons.
On a positive note, I like the FAQ page and the property looks lovely in the couple of photos that you do have on the site.
Good luck and I hope this feedback helps!
Linda
Didn´t look at the site in depth but these are my first impressions.
1. Too much copy on the home page. I think the fact that it is a 2 bedroom property with a swimming pool that you are advertising should be easier to see.
2. More photos of the property. I could only find a couple and had to search for them! Do you have one of the swimming pool? Apologies if I missed it as I only looked briefly at the site.
3. The rates page looks far too complicated! I think it would be easier on the eye if you listed the rates by seasons.
On a positive note, I like the FAQ page and the property looks lovely in the couple of photos that you do have on the site.
Good luck and I hope this feedback helps!
Linda
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Thank you!
Thanks Linda. All feedback gratefully recieved!
There are lots of pictures by clicking on the first link on the left. "Explore Le Pourtaou"
Nicola
There are lots of pictures by clicking on the first link on the left. "Explore Le Pourtaou"
Nicola
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I think it's pretty good for a first attempt - I liked it a lot. I think the confusion re the photos is that I thought Le Portaou was a place so I think you need to rename the section 'Explore Le Portaou' & make it obvious that this is the property.
I think you should drop 'centreing' the text every where & look at left or right aligning it - will look much neater.
Re the rates, you can reduce the lines & just put date ranges e.g. 8 Jan - 12 March £300 etc. You could then include them on the Rates page. The least amount of clicking to another page the better.
If you wanted to do you could add links from words within your text:
"We invite you to explore the house and the Midi-Pyrénées region through the links provided to the left. Please feel free to contact us by email or by telephone if you have any questions or would like to enquire about a reservation."
But all in all you are definitely on the right lines,
Z.
I think you should drop 'centreing' the text every where & look at left or right aligning it - will look much neater.
Re the rates, you can reduce the lines & just put date ranges e.g. 8 Jan - 12 March £300 etc. You could then include them on the Rates page. The least amount of clicking to another page the better.
If you wanted to do you could add links from words within your text:
"We invite you to explore the house and the Midi-Pyrénées region through the links provided to the left. Please feel free to contact us by email or by telephone if you have any questions or would like to enquire about a reservation."
But all in all you are definitely on the right lines,
Z.
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Centering text
Thanks Zelda/Linda
I am working on the prices page as I type.
Any particular pages you think would improve with left/right align rather than centre? The text is in boxes, maybe it would be better if it was wrapped around the pictures?
What do you folks out there think?
Nicola
I am working on the prices page as I type.
Any particular pages you think would improve with left/right align rather than centre? The text is in boxes, maybe it would be better if it was wrapped around the pictures?
What do you folks out there think?
Nicola
Hi, I agree with left aligned text.
I've offered on the thread re pasting in HTML but again if you want any help with FP problems I would see if I knew the answer. I've used it for around 10 years and have become used to some of its little quirks. (it has many!)
I've done quite a few sites using it and whilst they might not be up to web designer standard they've done the trick for myself and friends. Just drop me a mail if you need to
I've offered on the thread re pasting in HTML but again if you want any help with FP problems I would see if I knew the answer. I've used it for around 10 years and have become used to some of its little quirks. (it has many!)
I've done quite a few sites using it and whilst they might not be up to web designer standard they've done the trick for myself and friends. Just drop me a mail if you need to
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Cripes
Hi all
I've made some changes:
Got rid of the centre align and aligned right/left according to location of pictures.
Highlighted some key words on home page - 2 bed, sleeps 5, pool etc and added some links
Changed "Rates and availability page" to incorporate prices and simplified it
Changed "Explore Le Pourtaou" to "Explore the House"
Cripes! I forgot to keep copies of the original pages before I changed them! Doh!
Nicola
Thanks for the feedback!
I've made some changes:
Got rid of the centre align and aligned right/left according to location of pictures.
Highlighted some key words on home page - 2 bed, sleeps 5, pool etc and added some links
Changed "Rates and availability page" to incorporate prices and simplified it
Changed "Explore Le Pourtaou" to "Explore the House"
Cripes! I forgot to keep copies of the original pages before I changed them! Doh!
Nicola
Thanks for the feedback!
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Ooo err!
John
Good job you have not been in (my half) of the house then!!!!
Nicola
Good job you have not been in (my half) of the house then!!!!
Nicola
Hi Nicola,
Well, I'm at a bit of a loss for words... having personally written the copy for http://www.experienceburgundy.com a few years ago. I suppose imitation is the sincerest form of flattery... but this is pretty close imitation, and I don't recall being asked permission. Some of the text on your page is copyrighted to the above site, so I would ask you to revise it a little more to make it more different from mine.
For example, "escape the frantic pace of modern society and immerse yourself in the warmth and charm of France's Burgundy region" is a phrase I created just for our house. The beginning of it being used on another site decreases both sites' uniqueness. The FAQ section on experienceburgundy.com is also something I spent a long time working on. There are a few other, equally striking examples. In general it's okay to get ideas from other sites, but you need to make your text more different from the sites whose ideas you like.
You do have a beautiful property. I would suggest changing the background of the home page to white rather than using the picture background. Picture backgrounds are a good idea in theory, but they can also be distracting. If you want to keep the picture background to separate the home page from the other pages on the site, I suggest limiting the bgimage to the table background only, and leaving the rest of the page background white; that might look more professional.
Another thing: I noticed some pictures of the house that weren't on the "Explore the House" page, e.g. the kitchen picture on the "Discover the Region" page. Is that your kitchen? If so, I would say that in the caption, and also put that picture on the house page.
-Vrooje
Well, I'm at a bit of a loss for words... having personally written the copy for http://www.experienceburgundy.com a few years ago. I suppose imitation is the sincerest form of flattery... but this is pretty close imitation, and I don't recall being asked permission. Some of the text on your page is copyrighted to the above site, so I would ask you to revise it a little more to make it more different from mine.
For example, "escape the frantic pace of modern society and immerse yourself in the warmth and charm of France's Burgundy region" is a phrase I created just for our house. The beginning of it being used on another site decreases both sites' uniqueness. The FAQ section on experienceburgundy.com is also something I spent a long time working on. There are a few other, equally striking examples. In general it's okay to get ideas from other sites, but you need to make your text more different from the sites whose ideas you like.
You do have a beautiful property. I would suggest changing the background of the home page to white rather than using the picture background. Picture backgrounds are a good idea in theory, but they can also be distracting. If you want to keep the picture background to separate the home page from the other pages on the site, I suggest limiting the bgimage to the table background only, and leaving the rest of the page background white; that might look more professional.
Another thing: I noticed some pictures of the house that weren't on the "Explore the House" page, e.g. the kitchen picture on the "Discover the Region" page. Is that your kitchen? If so, I would say that in the caption, and also put that picture on the house page.
-Vrooje
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Vroojevrooje wrote:Hi Nicola,
Well, I'm at a bit of a loss for words... having personally written the copy for http://www.experienceburgundy.com a few years ago. I suppose imitation is the sincerest form of flattery... but this is pretty close imitation, and I don't recall being asked permission.
Point taken and my sincere and humble apologies! You site is quite lovely though and I did say I had taken ideas from other sites. I will make some amendments - a lesson learnt and all that! By the way I used to own a house in Burgundy, a lovely region at the best of times but moved further south for the climate.
Thank you for your other comments though - all feedback is gratefully received!
Nicola
Nicola,
Don't worry too much about it -- as I said, it is flattering. I make no claims of ownership whatsoever to the site layout or content ideas, just the actual copy. Thanks so much for being so attentive to it!
I'd be happy to help if you wanted outside ideas for unique copy. For example, I'd probably try to emphasize the year-round aspect of your rental with talk of "cozy nights by the fire after a thrilling day of skiing" (if you have a fire to sit by, that is!) or possibly describe watching a light snow falling over the mountains while savoring (insert local delicious hot dish here) with a glass of Medoc (or other wine).
Cheers!
Don't worry too much about it -- as I said, it is flattering. I make no claims of ownership whatsoever to the site layout or content ideas, just the actual copy. Thanks so much for being so attentive to it!
I'd be happy to help if you wanted outside ideas for unique copy. For example, I'd probably try to emphasize the year-round aspect of your rental with talk of "cozy nights by the fire after a thrilling day of skiing" (if you have a fire to sit by, that is!) or possibly describe watching a light snow falling over the mountains while savoring (insert local delicious hot dish here) with a glass of Medoc (or other wine).
Cheers!
Brooke
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Brooke
Thank you for your very generous comments and let this be a lesson to others!!
I have made some changes and may well be picking your brains directly rather than via your website. Shame I only have cosy radiators rather than open fires! The fires went after a rather nasty fire of a different nature where the pompiers had to be called after we'd been here only a week. But that's another story altogether!
Nicola
Thank you for your very generous comments and let this be a lesson to others!!
I have made some changes and may well be picking your brains directly rather than via your website. Shame I only have cosy radiators rather than open fires! The fires went after a rather nasty fire of a different nature where the pompiers had to be called after we'd been here only a week. But that's another story altogether!
Nicola