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vrooje



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joanna,

Thank you again! Smile

Just to clarify:

I have experienceburgundy.com registered and hosted with PowWeb. My parents' real estate site, which I manage, is also hosted on PowWeb, and they have several domain names pointed to it, all of which are registered with PowWeb.

NetSol only registers and forwards the experienceburgundy.co.uk name, because PowWeb doesn't deal with .co.uk domains. NetSol does the 301 redirect properly, whereas PowWeb's redirections (of my parents' domains for their site) are just DNS pointings, which is not the right way to do it, and I have thus far not had any luck getting them to change this. I had thought I'd transfer management of their domains to NetSol, but after this thread GoDaddy is looking better! Smile
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mpprh



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

The question of domaine names is something I may have underestimated. I started with a free domain from netfirms (http://tlp.netfirms.com/). It was the only free hosting I could find without the word free in the URL ! As visitors increased I needed to have my own domain name.

My logic was :

The majority of my visitors come from links and search engines

A very similar URL only works if it is .com, and people try to type it into the address bar and make a mistake.

The days of people registering McDonalds and trying to hold McDonalds to ransome are long gone

My site is very small, and not worth anyone trying to pirate a similar name

So, I registered only one name

And http://www.the-languedoc-page.com came into being.

Then, an apparently reputable company, (who have many references on my website) posted an ad on my forum for domain names for sale. Amongst the names for sale was http://www.thelanguedocpage.com Yes click on it !

It has been unsold since February.

Does anyone have any ideas ?

Peter
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paolo



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A clever, cynical tactic. If I were you I would buy that domain at godaddy.com, which costs 7 or 8 dollars for a year (or in euros: peanuts). Just to keep it off the market. Although you could also make it point to your real homepage, in case anyone types it into the address bar without the hyphens.
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vrooje



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow -- well, at least they link to your real page so you're getting an inbound link in the eyes of Google.

There are companies that will keep a lookout for a domain name registry expiring, and snap it up for you as soon as it becomes available. I think the fee for this is fairly small (at least compared to purchasing the domain from these characters). I don't know much about them, though, so I don't know exactly how it works and how reliable they are.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm

Google sees that as page rank = zero : Mine is 5, so it is probably not worth tuppence !

I still can't see that 55 unique hits in a month is of any interest to anyone ?

Peter





vrooje wrote:
Wow -- well, at least they link to your real page so you're getting an inbound link in the eyes of Google.

There are companies that will keep a lookout for a domain name registry expiring, and snap it up for you as soon as it becomes available. I think the fee for this is fairly small (at least compared to purchasing the domain from these characters). I don't know much about them, though, so I don't know exactly how it works and how reliable they are.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

this guy (http://www.thelanguedocpage.com) has updated his site to show increased visitors this month.

Doubtless as a result of this topic ?

The real world ?

Peter
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vrooje wrote:
There are companies that will keep a lookout for a domain name registry expiring, and snap it up for you as soon as it becomes available.


I think this is the site you mean.

Hi Peter,
Sorry to meet yet another victim of Reverse Hijacking. You could try a phone call to ask the guy to unlock it for a transfer, but I don't think you're dealing with a quality person here. You'll probably have to threaten a UDRP dispute, so it depends how much of a quiet life you want. I think if I were you, I'd be tempted to ignore him completely until 22nd February 2007 when he'll drop it rather than renew.

You might also consider dropping "the" from your main domain, then buying singular and plural and hyphenated versions and make one those new names your main domain, leaving the old name (and his version) pointing to it. This may put some distance between your site and his by morphing the name into something else, making it more catchy in the process, but as long as he's only using it to sell domain names (probably not very successfully) and not hard core, do you really care?

Although I definitely would not want him involved in any forum that I owned and ran because you can be sure that he will do to others what he has done to you, none of which is very nice.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpprh wrote:
I still can't see that 55 unique hits in a month is of any interest to anyone ?


Errr...maybe you. Remember, you are his target, nobody else. He's trying to sell you your own domain for 250% profit in 6 months. That's the game.
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paul smith



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

quote: 301 redirect to our primary site (301 is apparently the type of redirect that search engines don't penalize for).


How can we tell if it's 301 or 302 as I to have forwarding on domains too.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just picked up this thread through my stats.

Following on from the owner of thelanguedocpage.com claiming to offer it to me for nothing (he didn't), and claiming it was only a demonstration of the dangers of not securing all possible name types, it appears to be for sale here : panomidi.com/Domains.htm and previously here : finddotcoms.com which seems to have deteriorated somewhat and webproquo which seems to have vanished.

If he wants to donate the domain, as promised, he knows where I am !

Peter
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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2010 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just had an email from sales@flexmediasecure.net offering to sell me this domain name.

It seems that the guy who bought it in 2005 has not renewed it. His website at http://www.panomidi.com is still active and he still lists thelanguedocpage.com for sale here : http://www.panomidi.com/Domains.htm .

Google finds him here :

http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/neil-du-cros/7/9/764
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000102542423
http://www.ip-adress.com/whois/du-cros.com

and in about 190 other places.

As I said originally - be careful when purchasing domain names.

Peter
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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And patience brings its own rewards :

http://www.thelanguedocpage.com

Peter
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