Hadopi-Covering your backs- Wifi access

[Sandra]

We offer access to wifi but its a concern that we will have a gendarme come knocking one day........ what if scenario that some one downloads porn or strict copyright material.
So, apart from not offering wifi has anyone please, come up with a few words that might put the fear of death or worse!! to guests as a reminder of the very strict laws in France.And yes, I do realize the total responsibility rests with me and no arguing with Hadopi or a gendarme will get me anywhere.
I thought I might use some words to the effect wifi access is available for email access in/out. There is a strict monitoring of all downloads due to hadopi ......errrr any ideas what else I could bull***t about to make it clear?

[greenbarn]

I'm starting to run the risk of sounding like a marketing tool for OpenDNS......... In fact it was a post some time ago from Vrooje that put me onto it, and my urgent need at the time was to cap bandwidth usage by restricting access to some types of site.

It enables you to block access to sites by category such as pornography, movies, games etc and also to block or allow individual sites. It also has the benefit of giving you a list of sites to which access has been attempted. If the user tries to access a blocked website, they get a screen generated by OpenDNS informing that the domain is blocked.

It's free to download and easy to set up. You will get emails telling you the latest benefits of upgrading to the paid version, but I haven't found that excessive - I might even upgrade some time as it's not expensive; with the paid version I believe you can set up your own message screen in place of the default. ("You're a very naughty guest and your attempt to access BouncyBoobs.com has been blocked and recorded. Don't do it again.")

Worth a look - it may well be the best way of demonstrating to the authorities a genuine attempt to prevent abuse of your network.

Link here: www.opendns.com

ps it would of course add a lot of weight to any warning you give to guests about usage. Seeing a message come up telling them that their attempt has been blocked, along with the name of the site and the category it falls in, should be enough to convince them!

[wallypott]

I've listened GB and installed it for my three networks. So far not had anyone telling me they can't get what they want - on medium setting, and when the real guests arrive I will probably up it to the top setting.

Question - if I do the top setting what happens to facebook? do i need to do an exception, and when people watch videos on facebook (really youtube) does that use a lot of bandwidth (or whatever its called).

thanks

[Normandie]

Thanks for the link, GB. We've just got wifi sorted - with 2 ft thick granite walls randomly allocated through the house, supplying wifi has been a challenge - but we have it sorted for several parts of the house now. HADOPI has been on my mind too, Sandra, and I had OpenDNS bookmarked to check out so thanks for the prompt, GB.

[Hells Bells]

We have a communal wifi service. How can I tell if it is sufficiently protected to stop guests from downloading? I can't use OpenDNS. I have asked the very charming man from the company who maintains the network, but his English was not wonderful, and my French equally unable to explain myself. He was in my apartment yesterday investigating an unstable connection. Despite being less than 10m from the router, I cannot connect properly in the lounge.
I will probably email him soon, we seem to communicate better like that.

[la vache!]

I have a question (sorry if it has been asked before)!
I only have one internet connection, which is used by me all the time, and which I share with other gites (via wifi and ethernet). If I use open DNS will I be restricting my personal use as well as theirs?

[Sandra]

Thank you very much Greenbarn . La vache you just asked the question I was wondering about! But then we wouldn't be looking at stuff we shouldn't be looking at , would we!

[la vache!]

Thank you very much Greenbarn . La vache you just asked the question I was wondering about! But then we wouldn't be looking at stuff we shouldn't be looking at , would we!

Well no, but I confess to doing a little downloading from time to time, legally, of course. And I couldn't ban Facebook as I use it, or youtube, or dailymotion, or LMH...(although hopefully the guests wouldn't want that anyway).

[Sandra]

Thats bizarre la vache have you seen the time that we have just posted it states Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 3:58 am
Is it me , should I have corrected a time zone on lay my hat I wonder!!! It defo states on computer its still 15/03/2011 at 23:11 as we speak and I have only had a cup of tea!!

[greenbarn]

I have a question (sorry if it has been asked before)!
I only have one internet connection, which is used by me all the time, and which I share with other gites (via wifi and ethernet). If I use open DNS will I be restricting my personal use as well as theirs?

The straight answer is yes. I'm in the same situation and I did find I couldn't access sites I wanted; an example is photobucket, which is in the same category as movies etc etc, so some tweaking was required - not ideal, but those sort of sites aren't typically going to result in massive bandwidth usage, which was the problem I had to tackle in a hurry on Boxing Day, so leaving it as allowed isn't a problem from that aspect (might be different if your main concern was mucky content of course). It's very simple to allow and then block individual sites as and when needed.

The full blown version of OpenDNS allows you to overcome this drawback and configure your own access differently from the rest. I believe that's quite expensive, but the same feature is supposedly being added to the cheap (but not free) version; when it is I'll be coughing up the few quid a year that it costs but at the moment I'm not aware of any real advantages to draw me out of Scrooge mode.

[Normandie]

I wouldn't want to bar Flickr, Photobucket etc because I assume that uploading photos is something that guests will want to do - backing up photos as they go along rather than have them all on camera or pc. Well, I'd want to do that on my hols... And if I was a Facebook user and wanted to leave reports about what I'm doing / have seen etc, I wouldn't want to have that prevented either. If my reasonable use of those sites was prevented, my gruntle would feel a mite dissed.

Bandwidth isn't an issue for me as mine is unlimited but if a guest was downloading massive files, this might impact work I'm doing via my link which would be a pain. Illegal downloads are really what I want to prevent and as I don't download movies, tv programs myself - or visit porn sites! - the free version of openDNS looks as if it will be sufficient.

[la vache!]

The straight answer is yes.

Thanks GB, I thought that would be the case! I think I'll just leave things open in that case. I already state that as I only have IMo that any more than emails and internet surfing isn't possible and in the last 5 years I've only had one instance of someone downloading (and it is pretty obvious to me if someone is, when the speed suddenly drops) and after I knocked on the door and mentioned that I couldn't use the internet the downloading immediately stopped.

[stork]

We offer access to wifi but its a concern that we will have a gendarme come knocking one day........ what if scenario that some one downloads porn or strict copyright material.

Out of curiosity - is downloading porn illegal in France? Even if you are talking consenting adults and no copyright issues?

[Normandie]

Out of curiosity - is downloading porn illegal in France? Even if you are talking consenting adults and no copyright issues?

It's the stuff where the participants are not necessarily consenting - or adults - that is the problem, I think. But I may be misunderstanding your comment. "Ordinary" porn is available on many European tv channels for eg so "mainstream" porn with no copyright issues probably isn't illegal. But note the "probably"!

[Sandra]

Would some kind person list for me an example ( so that I can leave this on view in the gite) of what must not be downloaded.
I have got myself confused perhaps in thinking no music whatsoever can be downloaded even if its free, yes, no?
I use spotify as no music is downloaded just a live stream perhaps only this type of thing is allowed in France and NO downloads whatsoever. I just cant find the right words to explain so would very much appreciate someone else's slant on the matter.
Films off U tube perhaps cant be downloaded but only watched as a stream, ahhh I am just so confused over it. So please, some examples would be great.