newbie here 1st question

[casarural]

Hello everyone

We are travelling to Spain next year to seek out a location to move to. We will be retiring early from the public sector and have decided to relocate to Spain. Financially we feel comfortable with the decision, whilst we do not want to look for Jobs we would like to open either a casa rural or attached rental accommodation as we feel we need something to focus on. We are looking at the Granada Cordoba area exact location not decided.

my first few questions are

Do you need a license to run 1/2 B&B room or a 1/2 room attached accommodation.

Do you need to register as automono or not.

Are there any other rules and regulations i should be thinking about

Thanks

[djfwells]

1) Yes
2) Yes
3) Yes

The best money you could spend in a situation like this is to employ the services of a professional qualified, experienced and reputable Gestor / Asesor / Abogado working locally. Sure, it may cost you a couple of grand, but I guarantee that it will save you a lot of time, money and heartache in the long-run.

Don't try and cut corners and don't assume that the same business procedures and logic applies here in Spain as it does in the UK.

http://www.tumbit.com/how-to-guides/business-spain.html

[casarural]

1) Yes
2) Yes
3) Yes

The best money you could spend in a situation like this is to employ the services of a professional qualified, experienced and reputable Gestor / Asesor / Abogado working locally. Sure, it may cost you a couple of grand, but I guarantee that it will save you a lot of time, money and heartache in the long-run.

Don't try and cut corners and don't assume that the same business procedures and logic applies here in Spain as it does in the UK.

http://www.tumbit.com/how-to-guides/business-spain.html

many thanks appreciate your reply

[CSE]

You should note that each Antonymous region in Spain has it's own rules regarding Casa Rural. There are moves to try and get one set of rules covering the whole country. But no region wants to give up it's own regulations.
In here is a link to the ones in Andalucia.
http://www.juntadeandalucia.es/turismoc ... as=turismo

[CSE]

PS; I hope you have patience, as all paperwork takes a long time to be processed.
And here is a link to the local Casa Rural association, maybe they can give you some tips too.
http://www.raar.es/

[casarural]

PS; I hope you have patience, as all paperwork takes a long time to be processed.
And here is a link to the local Casa Rural association, maybe they can give you some tips too.
http://www.raar.es/

Many thanks steve.

TBH we are looking at a holiday letting attached to where we want to live.. i am not sure if that has the same regs etc. but i appreciate the links. Maybe I will start YOGA before we arrive! It seems that anything regarding paperwork in spain is a v long process

[e-richard]

Maybe I will start YOGA before we arrive! It seems that anything regarding paperwork in spain is a v long process

Good luck with the Yoga, I'm sure it helps....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKIE3IUkkp8

[CSE]

Many thanks steve.

TBH we are looking at a holiday letting attached to where we want to live.. i am not sure if that has the same regs etc. but i appreciate the links. Maybe I will start YOGA before we arrive! It seems that anything regarding paperwork in spain is a v long process

I gave those links in case you wanted to start a B&B or a Casa Rural. The later can be either like a B&B or whole let. It you do food, even breakfast, you should have "manipulador de alimentos". You can get the equivalent in the UK and have that translated here in Spain if your Spanish is not up to it.

Of course you will find illegally, sorry unregistered properties around. However I personally could not run such a business with all that looking over your shoulder waiting for a knock on the door from the authorities. But each to their own I suppose.
Good luck with your plans.

[casarural]

Many thanks steve.

TBH we are looking at a holiday letting attached to where we want to live.. i am not sure if that has the same regs etc. but i appreciate the links. Maybe I will start YOGA before we arrive! It seems that anything regarding paperwork in spain is a v long process

I gave those links in case you wanted to start a B&B or a Casa Rural. The later can be either like a B&B or whole let. It you do food, even breakfast, you should have "manipulador de alimentos". You can get the equivalent in the UK and have that translated here in Spain if your Spanish is not up to it.

Of course you will find illegally, sorry unregistered properties around. However I personally could not run such a business with all that looking over your shoulder waiting for a knock on the door from the authorities. But each to their own I suppose.
Good luck with your plans.

that is very helpful many thanks. Yes I agree there is no way we could go over and relax if we thought for one moment we were not doing everything correct and legal. we are going out in February 2013 to start researching various areas and want to be as fully informed as we can be. We are lucky the rental income is not vital but any income will be appreciated. I have found out about the tax etc. I have been advised by various people that lettings are not under automono which is annoying as that would have given us health cover after the first 2 years untill state pension kicks in...
My spanish is not too bad, my French, ironically is better LOL however I am now studying spanish so at least I will have a fair start when we get their end of 2013.

[camel]

With the best intentions you will be lucky to comply all & sundry are ready to

a) Fill in a tax return for each guest.
b) Their NI numbers.
c) All expenses pertaining to their tenancy period e.g five days
d) Gas/Electricity consumed during the period. I wish you luck if you can get a meter reading from the comany for the five days.

Now perhaps you understand why Spaniards do not take/ accepting all kinds of rules & regulations.

[casarural]

With the best intentions you will be lucky to comply all & sundry are ready to

a) Fill in a tax return for each guest.
b) Their NI numbers.
c) All expenses pertaining to their tenancy period e.g five days
d) Gas/Electricity consumed during the period. I wish you luck if you can get a meter reading from the comany for the five days.

Now perhaps you understand why Spaniards do not take/ accepting all kinds of rules & regulations.

Having spent time researching yes the paperwork looks to be a minefield. Oh well..when in rome