Although I've figured out how to get googlemail (without a mobile phone in Shanghai), does anyone know how to get a gmail account address?
I know it's sort of in Beta, and there's a problem in some countries, but maybe someone could help.
It's that 3gb online storage that interests me.
Goat
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Alan,
I do appreciate that. I don't want to be picky, or ungrateful, but does one actually end up with a gmail address or googlemail?
Or does it depend on whether one has a google account (for adwords, answers etc.) already?
I received a very kind invitation from Daisy in Beijing last week, which I took up (Mrs Goat doesn't read this) but I ended up with a googlemail address.
Googlemail is a bit of a mouthful, and gmail seems a lot snappier, certainly when one is giving out an email address on the phone.
On a slightly different issue, aren't you concerned about the privacy issues?
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I do appreciate that. I don't want to be picky, or ungrateful, but does one actually end up with a gmail address or googlemail?
Or does it depend on whether one has a google account (for adwords, answers etc.) already?
I received a very kind invitation from Daisy in Beijing last week, which I took up (Mrs Goat doesn't read this) but I ended up with a googlemail address.
Googlemail is a bit of a mouthful, and gmail seems a lot snappier, certainly when one is giving out an email address on the phone.
On a slightly different issue, aren't you concerned about the privacy issues?
Goat
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Goat,
Due to a dispute about the name, Gmail is now called Googlemail in the UK. The research firm Independent International Investment Research (IIIR), uses the name G-mail to refer to a part of its financial analytics software.
In most countries you get a Gmail address, in a few including the UK you get a Googlemail address. Mine come as “user name� @ gmail.com. The offer still stands.
To what privacy issues are you referring?
Alan
Due to a dispute about the name, Gmail is now called Googlemail in the UK. The research firm Independent International Investment Research (IIIR), uses the name G-mail to refer to a part of its financial analytics software.
In most countries you get a Gmail address, in a few including the UK you get a Googlemail address. Mine come as “user name� @ gmail.com. The offer still stands.
To what privacy issues are you referring?
Alan
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Many thanks, Alan, PM on it's way.
Google privacy issues have been well aired on the 'net, and I feel Joanna may be the expert to fill us in.
The point of gmail was that one could have a permanent store of all emails in/out, and no need to download and archive elsewhere etc. 3Gb (or whatever) would be OK for most users. Advantage of course is that one could use one's internal Google search to search one's email archive. Very useful, and I mean it.
However, and I may have got the wrong end of the stick here, Google (in its sign up conditions) allows them to squirt targeted ads when you're using their service, generated by the content of emails in and out of your account. So far so good, although it would drive me mad.
What is more disturbing is how Google deals with the privacy issue re the content of emails. Do security services have access? Do government depts. have access? Which country's gov. has access. etc. etc. I am sure you could come up with a minefield of interesting issues. Freedom of Information etc. etc.
This does need an expert here, I may be totally out of date on this, and maybe it has all be resolved, but I would like to know.
Goat
Google privacy issues have been well aired on the 'net, and I feel Joanna may be the expert to fill us in.
The point of gmail was that one could have a permanent store of all emails in/out, and no need to download and archive elsewhere etc. 3Gb (or whatever) would be OK for most users. Advantage of course is that one could use one's internal Google search to search one's email archive. Very useful, and I mean it.
However, and I may have got the wrong end of the stick here, Google (in its sign up conditions) allows them to squirt targeted ads when you're using their service, generated by the content of emails in and out of your account. So far so good, although it would drive me mad.
What is more disturbing is how Google deals with the privacy issue re the content of emails. Do security services have access? Do government depts. have access? Which country's gov. has access. etc. etc. I am sure you could come up with a minefield of interesting issues. Freedom of Information etc. etc.
This does need an expert here, I may be totally out of date on this, and maybe it has all be resolved, but I would like to know.
Goat
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This is what Google says in the not-so-small print of their sign-up info:
No large, annoying ads--just small text ads and related pages that are relevant to the content of your messages
which makes things clear. They look and digest your email and then present ads depending on their content. I'm not quite sure how far they go, if I ever get time I will experiment.
The only target ads that I found relevant have been on the Opera browser. The low-grade version of Opera churns out these ads, but they have been absolutely great - totally relevant and some good leads in addition to my own search activities. Had to give up Opera as there's a lot of sites which are incompatible with its browser engine.
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This is what Google says in the not-so-small print of their sign-up info:
No large, annoying ads--just small text ads and related pages that are relevant to the content of your messages
which makes things clear. They look and digest your email and then present ads depending on their content. I'm not quite sure how far they go, if I ever get time I will experiment.
The only target ads that I found relevant have been on the Opera browser. The low-grade version of Opera churns out these ads, but they have been absolutely great - totally relevant and some good leads in addition to my own search activities. Had to give up Opera as there's a lot of sites which are incompatible with its browser engine.
Goat
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It's not just that gmail is coolerer, it's shorter.
Googlemail is also a bit difficult for me when giving it to a French speaker.
This sort of explains the current situation, so I will have to 'adjust' my country of application:
http://mail.google.com/mail/help/intl/e ... email.html
Goat
Googlemail is also a bit difficult for me when giving it to a French speaker.
This sort of explains the current situation, so I will have to 'adjust' my country of application:
http://mail.google.com/mail/help/intl/e ... email.html
Goat
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This debate has been very interesting for me as my daughter was over for a few days last week to set up my new imac, to start the revamp of my web page on Wordpress and to show me stuff she likes that I might like too. I am using Google calendar now andI love it. The question of privacy is an interesting one - my daughter and I have discussed it today - her last message sums it up for me - To me it is a transaction. They sell me a service, I pay not in currency but by trading on my aggregated (not explicit) data. Like any other organisation I deal with. I trust them not to abuse me. Otherwise I don't deal with them.Google privacy issues have been well aired on the 'net,
The other key point is an e-mail communication is inherently insecure. If you really want to communicate privately e-mail is not the way. If you're already on the net your privacy is probably stuffed anyway so you might as well stop worrying and embrace the positive that less privacy = more sociability. In my opinion better the targeted ads than the spam. The advantage of Google parsing your e-mail content is you end up with the former and no more of the latter. It is the difference between solicited and unsolicited advertising.
She has written in more detail on her blog and you can find it at
http://www.ajpope.info/archives/2006/05/834/