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AngloDutch



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:19 am    Post subject: Sebastian Cortes Reply with quote

Received this last night. The Dutch looks to be Google translated. If they had just written in English and left out the salutation + the 'urgent response' Laughing then we might have even replied....


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Good day to you

My name is Sebastian Cortes, I am writing to find out if you have any accommodation available for one week from the 22nd April to the 29th April 2017 for me and my wife.
Please kindly send me the details of the cost and your availability for that period or if you have anything close to that period as my schedule is a bit flexible and I can change dates.
I await your urgent response

Thanks
Sebastian


Goede dag voor u

Mijn naam is Sebastian Cortes, Ik schrijf om uit te vinden als u een aanbieding voor een week vanaf 22 april tot 29 april 2017 voor mij en mijn vrouw.
Neem dan zo vriendelijk stuur mij de details van de kosten en de beschikbaarheid van die periode, of als je iets in de buurt van die periode als mijn schema is een beetje flexibel en ik kan data te wijzigen.
Ik wacht op uw dringende reactie

Bedankt
Sebastian



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russellt



Joined: 09 Dec 2014
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Location: Ivybridge, Devon, UK

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your scamometer is clearly more refined than mine. What makes you believe that this is a scam, and therefore does not merit a response?

Is it the use of the phrase 'Good day to you'? Or that they translated it using Google? Or the request for 'urgent' response(which I admit is a bit odd)?

What do you see as the risk in responding to this type of enquiry?

Am genuinely intrigued. (Are we becoming hyper-cautious, even on initial enquiries? I had 2 enquiries yesterday which I rejected - but it was after I had received additional info from them).
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AngloDutch



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

russellt wrote:
Your scamometer is clearly more refined than mine. What makes you believe that this is a scam, and therefore does not merit a response?

Is it the use of the phrase 'Good day to you'? Or that they translated it using Google? Or the request for 'urgent' response(which I admit is a bit odd)?

What do you see as the risk in responding to this type of enquiry?

Am genuinely intrigued. (Are we becoming hyper-cautious, even on initial enquiries? I had 2 enquiries yesterday which I rejected - but it was after I had received additional info from them).


They are getting better with their script, but 'Good day to you' is a typical opening phrase from a scam mail.

The Dutch text has been automatically translated (it is full of grammatical errors), although that it not a sign of a scam of course!

I suppose, 'Sebastian Cortes' could be an American ('Good Day to you') but it is still an enquiry for 2 people for a farmhouse that can sleep 12, which we have had once only in the last 12 years.

Actually, I finally made my decision based on the incoming email address. This is attached to our own Dutch-language website but enquirers always use the fill-in enquiry form on the page, which then generates an incoming enquiry email via our hosting provider, Promote My Place.

Since we have had the PMP website, every enquiry has gone via this form. We do show the email address separately on the page, but are thinking of removing it. We want to be open with our contact information but believe this is just being harvested for Spam/Scam/Phishing operations.

The risk if you reply is showing the people at the other end that your email address is active and available for similar contacts.

I am sure that any reply from 'Sebastian' would be that they want to pay by cheque for an amount of $5,000, with the request to transfer $1,200 to 'Avis' for their rental car, and another transfer amount of $2,300 to a 'travel agent' to pay for their flights over. Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AngloDutch wrote:
2 people for a farmhouse that can sleep 12,


AngloDutch wrote:

made my decision based on the incoming email address.


Aaaah! OK. So, party profile doesn't add-up and the email address looks iffy. Your reticence now appears warranted.

thx for explaining.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just bumping this as Sebastian Cortes is back again (takes a lot of holidays with his wife as this is the 3rd time this year he has contacted me. Text is exactly the same as the last 2, just slightly different dates:

Hello,

I am writing to inquire about availability in your accommodation for me and my wife from the 17th to the 24th November, 2017, or any week around that time as we are a bit flexible on our dates.

Please send the details and price for the period.

Many Thanks
Seb
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This time the email address is a new one : sebastian cortes 1706 @gmail.com - well dodgy!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had exactly the same this morning only this time he wants to go to Scotland!

Hello,

I am writing to inquire about availability in your accommodation for me and my wife from the 17th to the 24th November, 2017, or any week around that time as we are a bit flexible on our dates.

Please send the details and price for the period.

Many Thanks
Seb.
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jafa



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tend to find that when anybody uses the term, I'm flexible its a scam.
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Joanna



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Location: Chester, North West England & Sidmouth, East Devon

PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damnit! Just wasted time replying to 'Seb' who wants to stay in Chester in November too. I had my suspicions, but I thought it might be genuine - just wishful thinking then.
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EcoGirl



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had the same too today! In the Cotswolds
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same again. Scottish Borders.
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ManxRed1



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Feeling left out. Sad

Come on Seb, what's wrong with Cornwall?
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Andy & Lana



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ManxRed1 wrote:
Feeling left out. Sad

Come on Seb, what's wrong with Cornwall?


Nothing, apparently - we received his email enquiry, which had us fooled to start with, but then we're new to all this.....

....Our suspicions were instantly raised when his response to our reply with room rates had stuff about a company paying for his holiday, cashing a cheque and transferring balances, etc......

....Quick bit of Googling led us to this forum!
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome Andy and Lana, hope you find lots more useful stuff here, we're a very helpful bunch Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joanna wrote:
Welcome Andy and Lana, hope you find lots more useful stuff here, we're a very helpful bunch Very Happy


Thank you....
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