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Hi Vally.

Thank you for getting back to discussing the orginal topic.

There is always one (no names mentioned that wants to keep dragging things up).

Anyway moving swiftly on........

Getting your website on quality links, not just any old link, can help the ranking of your website. The question is how do you do it !

Well there are people that you can pay, or if you have a search around there are travel website that accept personal website for free. They will have a "add your url" or "add your website here" on it.

When you start getting more links and your ranking changes, website actually include you into their own websites without even knowing. They just send you an email saying that you have been included. I have received a couple of emails like that in the past three weeks. These may not be the quality links that you are after but at least it is more exposure for your website.

When you say "let your website loose", I would air on the side of caution and not post it when and where you can. This can have a negative effect on your website.

If you let me know you web address I will see where you are at the moment and give you any advice that I can. Send it to me in a message if your prefer.

I am off to Bansko later on today but I will get time very soon to help you.

Hope this helps. :D
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reddevil wrote:
Plus I will guarantee that your website will feature on Google, Yahoo and MSN.
Is this guarantee that the website will feature at No. 5,000,000 or at No.1??

Just wanted to say that the only way to "guarantee" at top 10 listing is for someone to pay for it!!
Not true !

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Website, hi

Many thanks for your robust responses on both forums, and starting this interesting thread. I've several questions arising from comments you've made, but I felt the most important one might be about your high SE positions for the phrase "rent an apartment in Bansko", and how this achievement might confuse a total beginner.

Assuming one's website is on, say, Google (you would have to try very hard not to appear on Google, as you know). Sticking a phrase from your website in parentheses and appearing #1 or #2 doesn't mean much. All it means is that you're on Google somewhere. It's extremely unlikely that anyone is going to search Google with that exact phrase.

For instance, we enjoy Google positions #1 through #6 for "reasonable quantity of logs for the wood stoves"; for the two-word phrase 'recently renovated' we're #1 and #2; for "state-of-the-art communications and entertainment facilities are installed throughout" we're #1; for the unique name of our property we're Nos. 1 through 800.

All of this is completely useless, and merely a chimera, and only proves that Google has spidered our various webpages, nothing more.

What's more interesting is results for keywords used by potential renters: ski Bulgaria or ski apartment Bulgaria which was really my original question: how are you doing for positioning on those?

Success on those types of keyword are what we're looking for, and if you've got access to the Holy Grail, we're all ears and a well-worn SEO path will be beaten to your door (even by horse-driven cart).

MG
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while I have a www I may as well get it seen by spammers and all ..so am I right in thinking if iIlet my www loose it will help
Yes, it will probably help bring traffic to your site. Just the simple act of adding your URL to your profile would be all you'd need to do to start, and I bet that would help a lot!

As to spammers -- well, as long as all your e-mail addresses are printed using some form of javascript (we've discussed this before here, I'm sure), you're safe from most spammers. :)
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Post by Vally »

Have added my web site to my profile , I added the hotel one as there didn't seem to be room for 2.
Thanks for the offer website but I already have a friend on another forum that is sorting that for me , I was just interested in the point about linking to this forum.
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Vally,

You can also add the other URL to your signature, and that way they will both get exposure...
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mpprh wrote:
reddevil wrote:
Plus I will guarantee that your website will feature on Google, Yahoo and MSN.
Is this guarantee that the website will feature at No. 5,000,000 or at No.1??

Just wanted to say that the only way to "guarantee" at top 10 listing is for someone to pay for it!!
Not true !

Peter
Hi Peter,

Please could you let me know how else someone could guarantee at top 10 position?

From my experience, the search engine algorhythms change so often and the competition is constantly trying to improve also, that it would not be possible to guarantee such great rankings??

But I would like to be proved wrong?
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reddevil,

Who would you pay to improve your ranking? Google et al are free.
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But if you are going over old ground from yesterday, think carefully about posting it as Joanna had spend some of her time editing a lot of this thread yesterday. We do not want that to happen again.
No, I was trying to be funny :oops: the quote was from the 'pink panther' agreed not to everyones taste. :lol:
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bit off topic just checking if my www appears


!!!!!!excellent!!!!!!!!!!! :D
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reddevil wrote:
mpprh wrote:
reddevil wrote: Is this guarantee that the website will feature at No. 5,000,000 or at No.1??

Just wanted to say that the only way to "guarantee" at top 10 listing is for someone to pay for it!!
Not true !

Peter
Hi Peter,

Please could you let me know how else someone could guarantee at top 10 position?

From my experience, the search engine algorhythms change so often and the competition is constantly trying to improve also, that it would not be possible to guarantee such great rankings??

But I would like to be proved wrong?
Hi

I've been No 1 out of 25m - 45m for 12 months and not paid a penny. That was the point I was making. If you follow the search engines own suggestions, and provide the best content - you will get to No 1 ?

I've posted here several times with articles I've followed about SEO.


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I haven't done too badly either, loads of enquirers state they found me on Google,and my website stats back this up, and I know nothing about SEO.
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Post by la vache! »

I agree with Peter too, my site is on the first page for a number of popular keywords and it gets a lot of organic hits from google, msn and yahoo, but I know nothing about SEO, it seems to be luck! I've certainly never paid anyone, I did once for another web address and it never got anywhere near as high in the ratings as my main address.
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Well Well Well.... :? :shock:

Confused you will be...first I joined at the end and read backwards...then I thought that wasnt the best idea and started at the beginning and sort of understood then people kept mentioning Initials and things were being deleted and there was a bit of a kerfuffle a free became a fee[only missing the r]people were pming
As you all know Im very nosey and websiteless......personal wise...... :cry:
Can someone please explain whats what speak very slowly you know how I am........Or is it all a need to know basis....... :wink:
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Mountain Goat wrote: What's more interesting is results for keywords used by potential renters: ski Bulgaria or ski apartment Bulgaria which was really my original question: how are you doing for positioning on those?

Success on those types of keyword are what we're looking for, and if you've got access to the Holy Grail, we're all ears and a well-worn SEO path will be beaten to your door (even by horse-driven cart).

MG
The problem is that phrases like that are too generic, realistically nobody here is going to have success with those sorts of keywords.

The best way I can illustrate that is to compare it with the situation at a company I used to work for; this company specialised in the sale of corporate security software, the flagship product being an identity management software suite. The MD insisted all of our advertising, especially Google Ads, had to concentrate on the words "password reset" - put that into Google and see how many results come up! :shock: Relying on that we were on a hiding to nothing; I sneaked in phrases such as "self-service password administration" with rather better results (try it, the company in question comes in above the software developers!!).

Google research suggests that people are using 3-5 words to make a search, at which people like us can begin to benefit from careful SEO. As people begin to more carefully target their searches we move into their sights (with our sites :oops: ); I have one particular phrase I use which gets us page 1 on Google (I'm not going to broadcast it, but I let Partridge know what it was, plenty of business for all!!!), something like 6th out of 235000 results - and it gets us enquiries!
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