- Will this year's failure turn around next year ?
Is my track record worth gambling with ?
Will the new site bring me more enquiries ?
Rush of last minute summer bookings
Fluffy, pragmatically I agree with you about loyalty, we need to keep a business hat on, but I've been wondering a little about the effect of chopping and changing on the loss of "track record" (How long you have advertised with XX). We've discussed elsewhere the issue of credibility that many years of rentals gives one when selling direct to the public and as you've also said, listing site success comes and goes.
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Nothing more can be said! I have exactly the same issues with one listing site...and I'm going to pinch your 'punch' line when it comes to dumping them!I am pretentious enough to have replied that I am quite good at my job of converting enquiries into booking but they didn’t appear to be quite as good at their job because they were not producing enquiries. A deafening silence was the response. I thought that was under-whelmingly impressive
Ditto that for me too!The Listing Sites are the same and the property is the same, but better, so why have enquiries dried up? There are many possible answers and the availability calendar is just one of them.
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I'd be interested in you theory too Richard!
I don't mind giving sites one chance, but no more. For two years French connections brought in most of my bookings, then after their relaunch I received virtually no enquiries, let alone bookings. I stuck with them for 2 years but I haven't renewed this year as the sense of loyalty has been replaced by frustration and more than a little annoyance as they suggested the only reason I wasn't getting bookings was that my prices were too high compared to other similar properties in the area. In fact they are considerably lower. I've been similarly loyal to holidaylets.net as I like their site, but I think the time has come to break with them too as the bookings just haven't materialised.
I don't mind giving sites one chance, but no more. For two years French connections brought in most of my bookings, then after their relaunch I received virtually no enquiries, let alone bookings. I stuck with them for 2 years but I haven't renewed this year as the sense of loyalty has been replaced by frustration and more than a little annoyance as they suggested the only reason I wasn't getting bookings was that my prices were too high compared to other similar properties in the area. In fact they are considerably lower. I've been similarly loyal to holidaylets.net as I like their site, but I think the time has come to break with them too as the bookings just haven't materialised.
Do people send an enquiry without actually wanting to book?
I really don't understand about 'turning' an enquiry into a booking. If the enquirer wants your place they will book it, if available. I wouldn't bother to enquire if I wasn't serious about booking. The only enquiries I have had that don't turn into a booking is because they ask for dates that are unavailable. I also had one that asked if we have sky tv, I answered no, she didn't book. There was no way I could have 'turned' her into a booking cos I didn't have sky at that time.
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I really don't understand about 'turning' an enquiry into a booking. If the enquirer wants your place they will book it, if available. I wouldn't bother to enquire if I wasn't serious about booking. The only enquiries I have had that don't turn into a booking is because they ask for dates that are unavailable. I also had one that asked if we have sky tv, I answered no, she didn't book. There was no way I could have 'turned' her into a booking cos I didn't have sky at that time.
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I get probably 50% of enquiries who don't book. My view is that they're "fishing" for a discount - they always ask what's the price (which is clearly marked) and when I respond saying it's £xxx, as advertised, they often don't come back. It's not universal, by any means, but usually if someone asks the price, they don't book.kipper889 wrote:Do people send an enquiry without actually wanting to book?
I really don't understand about 'turning' an enquiry into a booking. If the enquirer wants your place they will book it, if available. I wouldn't bother to enquire if I wasn't serious about booking. The only enquiries I have had that don't turn into a booking is because they ask for dates that are unavailable.Ruth
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Kip, in my experience many people make a short list of properties that appeal. If they are not so specific about area that is - eg South-West France, as opposed to a particular department, or even more precisely, near a certain town - so no, not all enquiries lead to bookings; there are also those people who like to window shop - then they go away and ask the family or a group of friends what they think and try to get commitment/agreement and nothing happens for whatever reason - the rest of the party aren't sure of their dates eg, then the whole idea evaporates and they never come back to you.
Our property sleeps 8 people - so I wonder if this more of a common phenomenon with larger groups - more people to organise/co-ordinate ie? I had an enquiry like that from a nice woman in Oz some weeks ago for Oct this year. She was really keen and we exchanged several emails - but it's lucky I didn't hold my breath! Of course, she may come back to me yet and I hope she does - October is usually quite hard to let in my neck of the woods!!
Our property sleeps 8 people - so I wonder if this more of a common phenomenon with larger groups - more people to organise/co-ordinate ie? I had an enquiry like that from a nice woman in Oz some weeks ago for Oct this year. She was really keen and we exchanged several emails - but it's lucky I didn't hold my breath! Of course, she may come back to me yet and I hope she does - October is usually quite hard to let in my neck of the woods!!
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It's a good point and I suppose we're discussing two different types of holiday browser aren't we - those who have a set of dates in mind, and create a shortlist of properties which are available, and those who are simply thinking more generally about options for a holiday - it may even be as vague as 'self-catering' vs 'package' and who are, especially if they are enquiring ahead of the crowd, prepared to be reasonably flexible as to dates. But if people are looking for a venue for the current year, the bottom line is that it is very important to show availability. Even in our still relatively unknown part of France, new rental properties are coming onto the market at an ever-increasing rate. It is going to be more and more difficult to stay ahead of the game.
One way is to have a decent personal website - but I have been on that particular soapbox more than once!
One way is to have a decent personal website - but I have been on that particular soapbox more than once!
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Hi GG,
I think you have hit the nail on the proverbial.
If your listing or website gives all the information that a potential client needs, you should not receive time wasting enquiries. It is there in black and white (or red and green) what is available, what it will cost and what they will get for said cost.
What more do browsers need to make a serious enquiry to book if the property is available?
Ruth
I think you have hit the nail on the proverbial.
If your listing or website gives all the information that a potential client needs, you should not receive time wasting enquiries. It is there in black and white (or red and green) what is available, what it will cost and what they will get for said cost.
What more do browsers need to make a serious enquiry to book if the property is available?
Ruth
I was really referring to the issue that guests may worry about whether the property really exists and is the advertiser for real. To which one answer (of many) has been that a visble and verifiable record of previous rentals (which one can see from the longevity of advertising) is potentially of some comfort.Gascony Goat wrote:e-Richard, is ones track record with a listing site all that important? ....
Oh heck, that was a long winded and not very lucid answer, so I guess really its not that big a deal.